Tilting against windmills
At 20:35 16/11/2006, Roger wrote:
Webmeister Tim:
As a practising historian, I feel the factual record on our blog should be correct. I in fact drank 2 pints of IPA and the whisky (honest).....
Richard 17/11/2006 08:26
Roger, I am concerned that you are bringing in the invidious practice adopted by so many football players to the WNDC. Appealing to, and arguing with the Ref really is an unbritish practice that should be outlawed.
I think we should adopt the practice common in Rugby Union of awarding a ten meter penalty against the disputing side, and therefore Tim should add an extra pint and a vodka shot to your record as a penalty, any further disputes should be similarly punished with the award of a large brandy or a tequilla slammer!
Keep professionalism out of drinking !!
Tim Wrote :
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: blog drinks count
I'm with Richard on this one. Roger, I understand your sympathy for future historians using our blog in a Pepysian way to measure the behaviour of the 40 something wage slave of the early twenty first century. Your name in our roll of honour will give them hope that in the mire of vain false proclamation that is blogging, with our blog they are on safer ground. They will however be wrong. We are in a dog eat dog world of hit chasing popularity, we have to look to our audience, we need referrers. At the moment our only audience will be our friends and family but how can our loved ones ask others to look at our blog if we proclaim ourselves a drinking club that barely drinks. Think of the shame that will fall apon your sons when we achieve greater fame and they have to explain to their scoffing peers why their father only drank two beers.
Like with Pepys and Hogarth historians will have to read between the lines on our blog. I bet those two barely left their gentrified homes to write and paint their imagined fascinating lives, they may well have had more than two pints of an evening though. Taking up their baton I feel it is beholden of me to protect our image for future generations. Next week the Somerville sees the arrival of a few naked dancing ladies....there will be a new score card as well....
Roger 17/11/2006 09:54 :
I am consulting with my lawyers...
Roger 17/11/2006 10:07 :
Whilst I am consulting my lawyers, can I add that messrs G and H have a typically slipshod approach to the historical record. All this postmodern 'interpretation' bollcoks is one thing, but in the end we need facts, facts, facts, on which to base our historical interpretations. Marx said that 'all that's solid melts into the air', probably after a few pints, but he could still do a decent number on base and superstructure and the dialectical one-two. My problem is that the factual innacuracies on our blog are a creeping sign of Americanisation. Remember the great alcoholic Bush Jr. prototype, Joe McCarthy, who ran amock in early 50s America with his Republican buddies, and couldn't remember how many communists were in government - citing three different figures in one week. Also don't forget America's disrespect for facts means they were in at the start and won every war that was worth winning, and to make matters worse made the execrable 'Pearl Harbour'. Now I want our blog to be a little piece of radical England, where Americanisation and postmodernism are kept at bay, where Early Grey Tea, Cricket, West Ham and Old Labour can still find a home. And where FACTS matter........
From: Tim Sent: 17 November 2006 12:37 :
Oh no. Your right. I've been caught, hypnotised by the bright lights of american hyperbole I've forgotten all that was important to me. I've been googlised and turned my back on the culture that made me a man. Do I care? What's done is done, I'm too far gone. I've lost my flat cap and cannot find my cravat and I'm not the only one. Mr F like a modern day Yukio Mishima is fighting a cultural rear guard battle and will one day be forced to see his progeny wearing Man U tops, playing baseball while he drinks a Dr Pepper sponsored by Labours' Us. Roger, come over to the other side and enjoy the one way trip to Armageddon.
I am of course only joking, I'll be there with you at the barricades, you've appealed to the one English thing in me that could not be turned, my eternal love of the hopeless underdog. Couldn't we just make it three? No sorry 2 pints it is then...
Andrew 17/11/2006 14:18 :
Like two Jean Valjean's, Tim & Roger man the cultural barricades against the onslaught of American culture though little do they know their actions are more akin to Don Quixote and Sancho Panza tilting against windmills, as rather than looking to our true cultural homeland, Europe, we ape and cravenly follow not only in politics, the north American hydra and all her tentacles such as MacDonalds, Gap clothes, Baywatch and Liberace .... we must burn our jeans and T shirts and return to Pease pudding, breeches, smocks and Chas & Dave .......
2 pints it must be if we are to remain true to our pure Roman / Anglo Saxon /Viking / Norman / Huguenot/ empire values !!
Webmeister Tim:
As a practising historian, I feel the factual record on our blog should be correct. I in fact drank 2 pints of IPA and the whisky (honest).....
Richard 17/11/2006 08:26
Roger, I am concerned that you are bringing in the invidious practice adopted by so many football players to the WNDC. Appealing to, and arguing with the Ref really is an unbritish practice that should be outlawed.
I think we should adopt the practice common in Rugby Union of awarding a ten meter penalty against the disputing side, and therefore Tim should add an extra pint and a vodka shot to your record as a penalty, any further disputes should be similarly punished with the award of a large brandy or a tequilla slammer!
Keep professionalism out of drinking !!
Tim Wrote :
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: blog drinks count
I'm with Richard on this one. Roger, I understand your sympathy for future historians using our blog in a Pepysian way to measure the behaviour of the 40 something wage slave of the early twenty first century. Your name in our roll of honour will give them hope that in the mire of vain false proclamation that is blogging, with our blog they are on safer ground. They will however be wrong. We are in a dog eat dog world of hit chasing popularity, we have to look to our audience, we need referrers. At the moment our only audience will be our friends and family but how can our loved ones ask others to look at our blog if we proclaim ourselves a drinking club that barely drinks. Think of the shame that will fall apon your sons when we achieve greater fame and they have to explain to their scoffing peers why their father only drank two beers.
Like with Pepys and Hogarth historians will have to read between the lines on our blog. I bet those two barely left their gentrified homes to write and paint their imagined fascinating lives, they may well have had more than two pints of an evening though. Taking up their baton I feel it is beholden of me to protect our image for future generations. Next week the Somerville sees the arrival of a few naked dancing ladies....there will be a new score card as well....
Roger 17/11/2006 09:54 :
I am consulting with my lawyers...
Roger 17/11/2006 10:07 :
Whilst I am consulting my lawyers, can I add that messrs G and H have a typically slipshod approach to the historical record. All this postmodern 'interpretation' bollcoks is one thing, but in the end we need facts, facts, facts, on which to base our historical interpretations. Marx said that 'all that's solid melts into the air', probably after a few pints, but he could still do a decent number on base and superstructure and the dialectical one-two. My problem is that the factual innacuracies on our blog are a creeping sign of Americanisation. Remember the great alcoholic Bush Jr. prototype, Joe McCarthy, who ran amock in early 50s America with his Republican buddies, and couldn't remember how many communists were in government - citing three different figures in one week. Also don't forget America's disrespect for facts means they were in at the start and won every war that was worth winning, and to make matters worse made the execrable 'Pearl Harbour'. Now I want our blog to be a little piece of radical England, where Americanisation and postmodernism are kept at bay, where Early Grey Tea, Cricket, West Ham and Old Labour can still find a home. And where FACTS matter........
From: Tim Sent: 17 November 2006 12:37 :
Oh no. Your right. I've been caught, hypnotised by the bright lights of american hyperbole I've forgotten all that was important to me. I've been googlised and turned my back on the culture that made me a man. Do I care? What's done is done, I'm too far gone. I've lost my flat cap and cannot find my cravat and I'm not the only one. Mr F like a modern day Yukio Mishima is fighting a cultural rear guard battle and will one day be forced to see his progeny wearing Man U tops, playing baseball while he drinks a Dr Pepper sponsored by Labours' Us. Roger, come over to the other side and enjoy the one way trip to Armageddon.
I am of course only joking, I'll be there with you at the barricades, you've appealed to the one English thing in me that could not be turned, my eternal love of the hopeless underdog. Couldn't we just make it three? No sorry 2 pints it is then...
Andrew 17/11/2006 14:18 :
Like two Jean Valjean's, Tim & Roger man the cultural barricades against the onslaught of American culture though little do they know their actions are more akin to Don Quixote and Sancho Panza tilting against windmills, as rather than looking to our true cultural homeland, Europe, we ape and cravenly follow not only in politics, the north American hydra and all her tentacles such as MacDonalds, Gap clothes, Baywatch and Liberace .... we must burn our jeans and T shirts and return to Pease pudding, breeches, smocks and Chas & Dave .......
2 pints it must be if we are to remain true to our pure Roman / Anglo Saxon /Viking / Norman / Huguenot/ empire values !!
posted by Dan and Tim at 2:44 pm
0 Comments:
Post a Comment
<< Home